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Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.13 16:44:00 - [1] Edited by: Trimutius III on 13/06/2009 16:45:08 Hmm... I don't want to participate (i'm expert in evasive maneuvers and trading/hauling, but not in fighting) But i have one question. Why there is no points for Black Ops in rules? They are not more powerfull then BS, so i see no reason for not allowing them... P.S. I just want to watch tournament and it's interesting to me which ships would be used, especeally ships that are rare in normal PVP like Black Ops...
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.14 10:23:00 - [2] Originally by: Martyn Brierfield Originally by: Anti Excedrin 2 billion is almost nothing to any Alliance with 10 players who are also capable of fielding, and losing, enough ships to actually participate in the tournament. That is my point exactly. The 2b fee has absolutely NO impact on those large alliances with bucket loads of ISK, however, those smaller alliances that must budget for the tournament will compete at a disadvantage. The tournament is already skewed to favour the large and rich, why add a mechanic to further handicap the less wealthy. Having several groups of ships for several rounds will cost u more then this 2b fee... I don't know about alliance but I myself have 2 bill in my wallet (not exactly in wallet and not on this char but still i have 2 bill) though i'm not playing really much and carebearing only from time to time. and my corporation have even more, so i can't imagine how alliance could not afford 2 bill fee??? U mean that newbie alliances can't afford them? There is no need for newbie alliances to participate in such events anyway.... Anyway u can even pay about $100 and get those 2 bill from selling PLEXes... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.14 22:59:00 - [3] Originally by: Martyn Brierfield Why shouldn't newbie alliance participate in such events? Well... I mean really new characters... That play less then 1-2 monthes, because there should be a group of 10 people so every one of them should pay 200 mill, so u can afford such a small fee... U know 30d PLEXes price was something like 300 mill or more for long time and some newbies payed their subscription with PLEXes (though u need to sit ingame for at least 1-2 hours a day and earn ISK) and that is more then 200 mill. So where is the problem? Only newbies that play less then a month can't afford that fee, and i don't think that such newbie character can give any competition on tournament, they don't have enough skills to be a power... U know very often my ships with fit cost 200 mill, and i do lose them and buy new one for 200 mill again, it's not a big money at all... And if u'll hit prizes this fee will repay... So it's normal... It's like in real-life, if u want participate in Poker Tournament u pay entrance fee and if u don't have that much money then sorry pal, and maybe it's unfair to poor people, but what wrong with that, this how it works, and this how it should work.
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.15 23:47:00 - [4] Originally by: Christina Bamar Personally I think 15 is too little for a T3 cruiser and too much for a HAC. 13 would be a more reasonable value for a HAC. Generally Command Ships have better damage output and better tank then T3 cruiser, so if CS get 16 point then 15 point for t3 cruisers is quite reasonable, though they are more versitile, but this versitality should not give them big advantage in PVP tournament. What T3 cruiser really could do that it should have more points, if they are expensive atm it doesn't mean that they are really powerfull, btw coolest subsystems are useless in the tournament. But i can't understand why HACs get 15 point too... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.17 21:07:00 - [5] Originally by: TeaDaze Originally by: Olvests As for the non-refundable entry fee, the rules mention that the fee is not refunded because it "will be used as part of the prize pool". What do we think this means? Presumably CCP could just create the money if there were cash prizes or something like that this time around. Due to the complex economics in eve they are probably less willing to "magic" 128bil out of thin air than in other games. Though 128bil is likely small potatoes compared to the daily trading/scamming in Jita Maybe it's few percent, but nobody know how big will be impact on economics from that "magic" 128 bill, because if they will go through Jita several times a day then it's may cause higher level of inflation, and if they will be taken away and then come back, then at least it would not cause inflation, or at least scale of inflation would be lower... (there could be some inflation if ISK will go from passive lying in the wallet into wallets of some good traders that will make those money work a lot)
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.18 23:58:00 - [6] Originally by: Dohl Khrensen Edited by: Dohl Khrensen on 18/06/2009 22:58:02 I'm not usually so blind, but could someone point me to the place where it says the entry fee is a non-refundable 2bil? I can't seem to find it. Thanks, Dohl U can read everything about entry fee here: http://www.eveonline.com/events/alliances/tournament/t7/signups.asp All rules of signing up are described there... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.05 16:58:00 - [7] Edited by: Trimutius III on 05/07/2009 17:01:43 Edited by: Trimutius III on 05/07/2009 16:59:42 Originally by: Vault Overseer and how do you prevent people from signing up with 100 alliances to get a better chance? (i know you have to pay lots of iskies to create that many alliances, but who cares?) Probability of such operation take place is like almost zero, so i don't think that this chance is significant enough to even bother about it... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.06 13:56:00 - [8] Originally by: L'Ame Immortelle Can we get an answer about this? The rule wording hasn't changed and it's way past Monday.. I personally think the wording should be that remote armor/shield repair should only be allowed on one single ship in your setup. Monday is today and in Iceland it's afternoon... So i think we should wait few hours and then write angry notes... if nothing changes... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.06 17:20:00 - [9] Edited by: Trimutius III on 06/07/2009 17:20:20 Originally by: L'Ame Immortelle Nothing angry, just wanted clarification - and his comment about Monday was from a month ago :) He said that early this weak everything will be there... So i think on Sunday we may ask what he mean "early this weak"... hehe ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.12 21:03:00 - [10] Originally by: CCP Claw I've been really agonizing over and discussing the entire points list for a few weeks with some of my colleagues, and will be doing an update - as well as some rules clarifications/changes - early next week when I'm back in the office. So Sunday is coming to the end... What did u meant saying "early next week"??? ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius

Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.14 21:19:00 - [11] Originally by: omgdutch2005 why dumb? if u run 2 screens (like i do :) ), run eve windowed, its not THAT! hard to actually.... dual run :) Yes it's not really hard... But it's dumb because price is really high, while u switching between windows u may lose the battle, and if there is 1 window per person then everybody have much more concetration and it's really good benefit against multiple windows. But there is no problem for multiple windows if u don't need as much concentration as possible... I fighted with 3 windows in 0.0 complexes with no problem. But in tourney the best thing is if every single character is pushed to the limit and fights as good as possible, like 100% or even 110%. But if u fight with 2 windows each ur character perfomance would be not more then 80-90% or even less... And that is far from 100% u need... :) ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius
Trimutius III Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.02 20:32:00 - [12] Edited by: Trimutius III on 02/08/2009 20:35:42 Edited by: Trimutius III on 02/08/2009 20:34:02 Edited by: Trimutius III on 02/08/2009 20:33:32 Originally by: Vault Overseer say that again :D Seriosly? Maybe i said so because i don't care... But still i'm pretty sure that chance is small... %) If u see some new alliances and strange names in list then i can say only one thing: That is randomiser and doesn't necessary mean that somebody created many alliances to get through... And that guy who says "next time i will create" and so on... I doubt that he'll do more then 4-5 alliances... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius

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